r/pathofexile. Exposure, power and frenzies, onslaught. You can literally play with the same tree, gear, and gems, just switch them and play what you prefer. Vengeant Cascade + Hydrosphere died for the sins of Chain and Splash. Currently it does 100% + 65% (splits lose 35% damage) x 10 with snipers mark = 750% damage. Plus Vengeant Cascade is insane! If you wanted to play a Nimis build in 3. What. [3. 0. Currently it does 100% + 65% (splits lose 35% damage) x 10 with snipers mark = 750% damage. Vengeance Trigger, Attack, AoE, Physical, Melee Level: (1-20) Cooldown Time: 1. . Vengeant Cascade abuse continues before its gone!Support me on Patreon for Special Perks Click Show More To Open ⬇⬇⬇Subscri. 21. " Instead, it now provides "Returning. These skills often only need two oils to apply, two Golden oils and one Amber oil. First impressions: This notable is nothing special. Feel free to. Indigo Oil. Secondly the projectile from "Cobra Lash" doesn't last forever and can expire before it can return to you, Projectile Speed can help with this. With the new behavior of how projectiles return, I'm wondering how it will work with frost blades in a single-target scenario. Welp i guess BOTH nimis and vengeant cascade dead for exploding projectiles. This change is quite bad for this build imho because on some tougher bosses it was nice to see the totems hammer the life bar away when my char died. Some version of vengeant cascade splitting steel or some version of exploding totems. Returning Projectile Support now replaces Added Cold Damage Support for Lightning Arrow and Ice Shot. Supported Skills now deal 40-31% less Damage (previously 40-21%). Molten Strike is a skill that likes to stand and deliver. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright. Historic Quant/rarity WILL be reverted. Without Sniper's Mark: projectile pierces and returns. 3. Do you know how vengeant cascade works with magma orb?. Vengeant Cascade. That skill/anoint is so broken that even quin can't get it to deal zdps. we have return from Vengeant cascade before next patch but vs group of mobs. . 99. Energy shield - makes you tanky. Curses a single enemy, increasing the damage they take from projectiles, and making projectiles split when hitting them, to hit other targets around them. Nerf Elite 2. 3. Secondly the projectile from "Cobra Lash" doesn't last forever and can expire before it can return to you, Projectile Speed can help with this. Ruthless or no Ruthless, doesn't change the fact it's bone dry. If anyone could give pointers/advice or even a skeleton of a build for it, that'd be very helpful. The Vengeant Cascade Anointment is mandatory, as it simply doubles your Damage. Nothing Show Here For Nowstill working out this build , not ready to share , very potential . Anyone have experience with this? Last bumped on Aug 28, 2023, 6:56:34 AM. Vengeant cascade upgrade did not disappoint. 7. . ago. Join. Sabo is far and away the best choice, and its not remotely close. Result: Vengeant Cascade and barrage support on Power Siphon works. For example - Kinetic Blast. The order of operations for projectiles: Pierce --> Fork --> Split --> Chain --> Return. 21! Apr 19, 2023. Phys is a bit more damage, but not that much more and it requires higher investment. Vengeant Cascade is so popular because it gives double damage (minus the opportunity cost to get it online, which is annoint for bow builds, annoint+some proj speed investment for others). Fast, has great clear and quite good single target (about 8-9m with good gear, not counting the return projectiles from Vengeant Cascade - hard to calculate those, but they make up. The last 2 years have been rough and in the last year in particular we've been getting so much nerf and clawback that it's hard to see where. That being said I could see some weird spaghetti code where the floor is coded as an enemy to proc chain bounces for molten. It costs 2 Golden + 1 Amber Oil. In this video I go over how I got Vengeant Cascade to work on Frost Blades Trickster in the Path of Exile Crucible League allowing for double hits and insane. $29. It doesn't seem to do anything to the secondary projectiles. ago. Vengeant cascade, ballistas, rage/berserk, ailments for taming, gale force, trinity. Supported Skills now deal 40-31% less Damage (previously 40-21%). Twitch: Für 'ne kostenlose Wisdom Scroll einmal hier klicken: -- --. Small PSA on Vengeant Cascade + Sniper's Mark. Different take on a semi-regular wander build, running as Raider instead of Deadeye, utilizing Power Siphon barrage for single targets and Kinetic Blast for clear. Hydrosphere wasnt used to chain from and back to the boss. Honestly without a solid investment of like 50 div on top of an omni I wouldn't go near TS when LA is as good as it is. My suggestion is that Cascade has a line which says "50% less projectile damage", or "50% less projectiles" or "projectiles have 50% chance to return". Nimis version using Nova + GMP + Greater Volley: 13 arrows = 13 hits = 1200% more damage. 22 due to Vengeant Cascade Nerf and Removal of Crucible Bows, no league start meta change, best scaling league starter. Min. (25-35)% increased Projectile Damage. ago. What do we think about vengeant cascade? would it be worth taking? Posted by Logzforlife on Apr 3, 2023, 5:24:36 PM. Different take on a semi-regular wander build, running as Raider instead of Deadeye, utilizing Power Siphon barrage for single targets and Kinetic Blast for clear. This is actually the largest nerf in PoE history, number wise. in open areas, the returning projectiles from sniper's mark only hit the enemy once. and is it better to stay tornado shot or change it into lightning arrow since we have the new vengeant cascade (double damage because of the returning proj)? Nice! Take a look at the new End Game crit PoB, If you have all the components from the progression PoB purchased, the prices fluctuate a lot so it's hard to give an estimate on. 80 sec. How big of a hit dps wise it really is? I know there is the new support gem, but using it means removing a damage support from the setup. Frost blades was fine before VC, it'll be fine after. POB: Soul of LunarisBtm : Soul of Abberath (burning ground) / Soul of Gruthkul (more defend)CRAFTING VIDEOSGlove : ht. Even though Vengeant Cascade was nerfed, the introduction of the Returning Projectile support gem kept this build super fast and strong, which caused most of the players to choose it. Spell Cascade Support now has a Cost and Reservation Multiplier of 130% (previously 140%). On top o. In today's video, I'll be crafting a mana reservation helmet for my Vengeant Cascade Ele Hit Deadeye build in PoE 3. If you've been playing my Vengeant Cascade Ele Hit Deadeye build, you might be wondering how to upgrade it and take it to the next level. Members Online • heydie. The projectile will go through them (using up its one pierce), hit the Hydrosphere and return to hit them again. 20. Huge undocumented nerf to Nimis KB. Molten strike is kinda busted with vengeant cascade anoint right now. ninja • 6 mo. It allows you to get the Maximum Shock Effect when you shock enemies as though dealing 290% more Damage. . Posted by DiabloImmoral on Apr 4, 2023, 7:36:52 PM. The newest expansion will go live on September 6 for PC players. Fast, has great clear and quite good single target (about 8-9m with good gear, not counting the return projectiles from Vengeant Cascade - hard to calculate those, but they make up. Our goal for the prefixes is: Damage Penetrates 15-16% Fire Resistance (Deafening Essence of Rage) +1 Level of Socketed Gems. Also forum/reddit users: "Nooo, don't you dare touch Vengeant Cascade, Exploding totems or anything else we like! oMg nO fUn aLlOwEd gGg". Forum/reddit users: "We want buffs, nerfs and meta-shakeup". Quote this Post. Let alone the hydrosphere behind the boss. Preferably a ranger build (PF/Deadeye/Raider. #050. 1% representation, which is lower than skills like dominating blow. Only 3 people were, and the #1 was using the Savior and Lancing Steel, so I assume that setup is pretty good. Hey wondering if anyone has an amulet with this mod on. Sorry it took a while to update, but with the changes to "Vengeant Cascade", and with no first hand experience with how "Returning Projectiles Support" would work, I didn't know if the build would still be viable. vengeant cascade will be dead at the end of the league. I've been using it on my Gluttonous Bow Tornado Shot Deadeye and it's still great. Anoints on amulets can activate any passive on the skill tree, including the hidden ones like Vengeant Cascade. (Vengeant Cascade) Undergound River Lvl 92 (Vengeant Cascade) 100% Delirious Double Beyond Fractured Burial Chambers. ago. Only 3 people were, and the #1 was using the Savior and Lancing Steel, so I assume that setup is pretty good. Boom! Doubled hits. But Vengeant Cascade is cheap as free so that kind of power available to everyone at league start would be busted. ago. 2. 150% inc proj speed on return from vengeant cascade is actually quite nice with the Return support gem. Every cold skill can do good damage with heatshiver, until that gets nerfed dont worry. rasmuskl poe. There definetely should be a huge penalty, sorry. PoE Discord (#wiki) in: Versions. Vengeant Cascade isn’t new, it was added with the rest of the anoints during blight but the return mechanic itself was fixed this league. While vengeance cascade nerf was expected, it turned out to be boring. com GGG, There is no way the "Vengeant Cascade" anoint goes live without a nerf, right? With the changes you are making to returning projectiles, leaving Vengeant Cascade with a 100% chance for projectiles to return is like giving every attack build a free Nimis ring. Result: Vengeant Cascade and barrage support on Power Siphon works. 2nd demo video for my Lightning Strike Raider in 3. In Crucible (3. 2. That said at most levels snipers mark plus TS is more single target dps than LA can have so for bossing its dealers choice. BUT results have shown that Sniper's Mark is actually a bad mark for Vengeant Cascade. 29. Return should occur at the end of all other actions, only when the projectile would be destroyed. fandom. Quote this Post. Lightning Strike is a melee strike attack. Idk about whirling blades but Venom Gyre is better at everything. Sniper’s Mark is a active skill gem. . Previously some effects that caused projectiles to return specified they only did so at the end of their flight, others only from a final target, and a few from either case. Over 20 new active skill gems WILL be added. Attribute Requirements can be satisfied by (15-25)% of Omniscience That winter,. Only time they do more damage is in mid range. Obviously the annoint opportunity cost is a million times lower though. " Instead, it now provides "Returning. 0:30-3:46 First Kill - no vengeant cascade, random leech annoint in its place 3m16s. 97. (25-35)% increased Projectile Damage. Death's Guide, Jadecrafter, Moon Dancer, Mystic Prophet, Storm. You could get all these stats from INT in 3. I haven’t seen this discussed ( excuse me if it was or if this is an interaction that cannot work ) but Vengeant cascade grants 150% projectile speed to returning projectiles, et the bow mastery that grants modifiers to projectile speed apply to projectile damage would then increase returning projectile damage by 150% right? so it’s kinda like old vengeant. Opalescent Oil. Will definitely try a different build in 3. 14 Standard. This Notable Passive Skill offers a unique mechanic that can greatly enhance projectile-based attack builds. Attack projectiles return to you, but also can damage you as well. As it is, it's a pointless fucking nerf. ninja because a content creator for some reason thought it would be a good idea and made a video about it at league start. Let's force everybody on the new lottery carousel. ) 142K subscribers in the PathOfExileBuilds community. In today's video I'll be sharing my Vengeant Cascade Ele Hit Deadeye build guide. Trying to get forbidden jewel combo for Farshot is what people will be aiming for as well as it majorly increases with the returning projectiles. ninja you’ll find that the top deadeye builds that are using vengeant cascade are actually Omni barrage builds, followed by yoke of suffering barrage builds, then Vaal lightning arrow. " Instead, it now provides "Returning Projectiles have 150% increased Speed. It has a secondary effect where it launches proj. Bulk Divine Orbs on the stock. Returning Projectile Support now replaces Added Cold Damage Support for Lightning Arrow and Ice Shot. The point of origin the balls return to is not you or your tot. I'm predicting Bloodnotch will take a hit too, though hopefully they don't completely destroy it; that would go against the point of their entire unique jewel rework. and is it better to stay tornado shot or change it into lightning arrow since we have the new vengeant cascade (double damage because of the returning proj)? Nice! Take a look at the new End Game crit PoB, If you have all the components from the progression PoB purchased, the prices fluctuate a lot so it's hard to give an estimate on. TOP 2: Lightning Arrow. dreskanx • 2 mo. Post change, it will do 100% + 32. Sponsored. . . Split projectiles flying. 22, however, this has had minimal impact on the meta. Nerf of timeless jewels. Vengeant Cascade is for sure getting a nerf. Scales. But, that’s still a ways off in November, and you don’t have to wait too long for Path of Exile: Blight. if we put vengeant cascade into the equation, it probably means the following : for single target, you want your projectile to either pierce, fork, or chain, so it can continue from. Since there is still some discussion about Vengeant Cascade, made a quick comparison of normal Eater of Worlds, with and without the annoint (and limiting RNG factors like totems, nightblade and flasks). Vaal Lightning Arrow got added, Manaforged Arrows got added. It's useless with Explosive Arrow since you want the arrow to stick in a target. People can complain all they want about how it makes X skill(s) useable, but the solution to that is a direct buff to those skills. ThisIsWorldOfHurt • 6 mo. Vengeant Cascade 100% needs to be nerfed. Hey guys, we're back with some Frost Blades action! We wanted to try out vengeant cascade with FB and see how great the DPS is! Well, it turns out pretty GRE. . • 4 days ago. I've played PoE for hundreds of hours but this is the first time I've been able to really push the end-game atlas and work on clearing shaper thanks to this. How big of a hit dps wise it really is? I. ago. With 90% Physical Damage. It's just a matter of whether it still feels decent enough after the Vengeant Cascade nerf. P. 20 was when the withering step nerf hurt assassins wither stacks and elusive uptime. Chain / extra projectiles should be obvious enough. Hey guys, here is vengeant cascade lightning strike raider build. 20 but couldn’t afford it then try Vengeant Cascade, for the low cost of Golden Golden Amber oil it nearly doubles the dps on forward-firing projectile attack builds. Is Vengeant Cascade Good In POE 3. Additionally, with the change to vengeant cascade, we now get every secondary projectile to overlap for just an annoint, which results in 975% more damage for splitting steel (with 15 projectiles) - an equivalent damage effectiveness. Although it is one of the passive skills on the skill tree, players. Nimis. Vengeant Cascade will basically never be a way to improve single target damage due to it being a hit effect like pierce/fork/chain. So much good stuff Vengeant cascade is dead, (big nerf to mid game Lightning arrow / Ice shot). With the new update Hydrosphere can only be hit once every 1 second, which means it no longer procs Vengeant Cascade other than once every 1 second. Finally, let's take a look at the breakdown of Oils consumed to anoint Notables. This has brought my clear to a whole new level. [PoE 3. The difference here is that they. 8. Poe ninja has seismic at a . Basically all out on damage. . In today's video, we'll be. Forbidden Rite Spell, AoE, Chaos, Projectile. Least based gigachad POE enjoyer Yeah the keystones are nutty. The return arrow might miss the target. Pickup Delivery 1. 00%. It shows the 11 anoint only nodes like Vengeant Cascade. dps. Path of Exile item and currency. Anything to change the meta. Explosive Arrow will only stick to the final target and not all targets, if the projectiles returns to you then it will not explode on any targets. 08 May 2023 12:02:27The Steel Impale Champion excels at dealing Physical Damage and makes great use of the Impale mechanic while maintaining very respectable survivability throughout the leveling process up to and. Next upgrades:- Better bow- 5/6 link ballista setup- Awakened gems- Helm enchant3. - The Vengeant Cascade Anointed Notable Passive Skill no longer provides 15% increased Projectile Speed, "Attack Projectiles Return to you", or "Returning Projectiles Pierce all Targets. Maybe delirium herald stacker, but that wasn't as visually pleasing as VC, just straight up broken. ; Allocated passive nodes on the Amulet behave as if the node were taken manually. ReplyLightning Arrow is much worse in PoE 3. Vengeant cascade on shrapnel ballista might mean 20 stacks of poison per shot per totem with pierce. I would love to test a few things with this but there is no way to find amulets that have this anointment on it. Unless there is an enemy to hit with no chains remaining the projectiles won't return. Nothing Show Here For Nowstill working out this build , not ready to share , very potential . ago. Quote this Post " Panemix wrote: " Angry_Roleplayer wrote: " Panemix wrote: Hi, I really enjoy this build. 3. It gained higher added flat physical damage, and the split projectiles no longer have 50% less area of effect. The second item is Phantasmal Spectral Shield Throw, which is about 4-5 Divine Orbs. . At this point I would have taken even nerfs. Eye of Winter Spell, Projectile, Cold. Nimis. Anoint. If you play closed maps (anything with walls), you can get by on much less. ago. In case of Vengeant Cascade and Sniper's Mark, you need to stand almost right on top of the boss to double your amount of hits. Sabo lost a shit ton of support for Seismic. But I knew for sure the new build had to have the new OP gloves - Tanu Ahi, Vengeant Cascade, the best damage aura in the game - Hatred and Heatshiver, which to my. 0. GL. At close range you will lose damage compared to no point blank and point blank and at long range you will lose dps compared to no far shot or far shot. POB: with TONS of info on h. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright. Anoint issue with Vengeant Cascade. Ice shot state after vengeant cascade nerfs? I really want to start the league with Ice shot, but the vengeant cascade nerf got me worried. Effectiveness of Added Damage: 55% Requires Level 28 Fires a single eye projectile which constantly releases shard projectiles in a spiral. With hexblast or shaper of flames, you convert all damage to an ignite and scale the ignite with fire damage/fire. The good and the. You could already do it with Vengeant cascade, 1 pierce or chain, Tornado asenath's and stay close to the target: 4 hits per arrow fired (tornado, enemy, tornado, ground. Cast Time: 0. . I’m still on a 5-link and a big upgrade for me would be a %chance to avoid grace watcher’s eye. Vengeant cascade works with volcanic fissure, just albeit a bit differently than other skills. Fast, has great clear and quite good single target (about 8-9m with good gear, not counting the return projectiles from Vengeant Cascade - hard to calculate those, but they make up. Get +1 Pierce (only. Severed in Sleep is better for the build. The main advantage of phys to cold conversion is that you freeze and shatter monsters, it greatly improves your survivability and FPS I played both ele and phys TS with mirrored bows, they are comparable If you are. Removal of massive amount of duration from the tree, particularly for ignite. 56. I have been trying to do more pinnacle bosses this league, and as the title would suggest am running frost blade with vengeant cascade. 25s). Im looking for a class build based on my preferences. Example - 3 clear oils with 10% reduced monster movement speed give a total of 30%. +2 Level of Socketed Bow Gems. Lightning Arrow is much worse in PoE 3. But it cant trigger return with Distance and obstacles, because of. With Vengeant Cascade as a support gem, 2 reworked Ascendancies, and new Unique items he's got his work cut out for him!Find out the answers with PoE 3. It double the hits from 20 to 40. 21Barrage support allows every arrow released by arrow nova to hit the target it land. %Increased damage based on INT - so good scaling for that good base damage. Disappointing to hear Vengeant Cascade seems to be useless for this build though. 75 sec. % increased Evasion - makes you tanky via avoiding damage. PlayStation 4 and Xbox. " Looking for a build with Vengeant Cascade on 25 divs budget. Unique, Amulets. Support gem says 70% less damage on return, but there is a bow mastery that gives "proj speed = added proj damage", meaning it greatly increases bow return dmg. 1. Looking for a build that utilizes Vengeant Cascade since that looks pretty damn fun right now. you can try kb cf champ also, but generals on juice maps could be rough. Wish it showed helmet enchants as well :\. Looking for a build that utilizes Vengeant Cascade since that looks pretty damn fun right now. With 31 divine i highly recommend a elemental version and no phys conversion. Because it doesn’t appear on the Passive Tree. Vengeant Cascade is all the rage at the moment and I've been making use of it with my new Vengeant Cascade Ele Hit Deadeye build. -::- 3. P. r/PathOfExileBuilds. People have had their fun with it, now it needs to go. I think that Vengeant Cascade check if those skills can chain because of Molten Strike and the Wildfire interaction. Greeting, Exiles! Today’s build is the most played one in the POE 3. So my math most definitely is flawed somewhere, but IMHO the DPS "feels" pretty close to it - pinnacles are vanishing haha soon I will be doing Ubers, just need a couple more points. Cascade is just double damage for vanilla projectiles (ele hit/la/ice shot on single-target). 22 Best Late League Start Build - Top 6 Most OP Builds for Trial of Ancestors. Server:. Exposure, power and frenzies, onslaught. This passive synergizes well with the Bow Mastery that. 22 Solo Self Found Meta Changes. On its face it seems like a massive nerf to Nimis attack builds from last league if only 1 returning projectile stops at you and the rest fly off behind you to nowhere. Vengeant Cascade is one of the largely forgotten (because it was largely useless) hidden passive tree notables added all. This leads to the interaction, that with single target, you can reliably get the 200% increased damage of the splinters, by positioning the HS in a distance to the boss enabling the Splinters to chain off the sphere and into. Attack projectiles return to you from hitting final target. In this article, we will delve into the details of Vengeant Cascade, its widespread usage, the. Level: (1-20) Cost: (8-21) Mana. P_1 cannot Return unless it has 2x pierced and then 1x. Posted by corosou on Apr 18, 2023, 5:02:55 PM. Ensnared enemies always count as moving, and have less movement. But Vengeant Cascade is cheap as free so that kind of power available to everyone at league start would be busted. I don't have the money to waste putting this on. Second: Vengeant Cascade presumably allows your attack projectiles to hit twice, and the guide you're following has the count from those skills set to 2. -ailments focus on helmet was halved (not used with Wilma's, but if it gets nerfed in the. It's actually my variation of a build presented here: The OP here knows it better, I suggest to read and watch his PoB (he has actual dmg numbers). Over the coming weeks Aer0's going to be brainstorming new builds. Zenith_X1 • 6 mo. Also PoE players: The [league mechanic] doesn't need to be nerfed, you just need to play a [current meta] build!. Just get to 142% projectile speed and it doubles your single target damage. 7:07-9:02 Third Kill - vengeant cascade with Faster Projectiles instead of Vicious Projectiles 1m55sThat's not very efficient and makes the support gem (or battlemage) fairly weak. -ailments focus on helmet was halved (not used with Wilma's, but if it gets nerfed in the. POE. and it was one of the funnest builds i've played. 8. I'm planning my next build (I want to try it before it's inevitably nerfed), but I'm unsure if Deadeye extra chains is helpful or Hurtful with Vengeant Cascade and Molten strike. This is subject to change as we continue testing things as the league progresses ofc. Snipers mark stops vengeant cascade from working against bosses (yes even with pierce), after removing snipers mark I noticed my damage go up considerably on my LA deadeye. This takes the form of a quick tower defense event, in which you can create towers to slow the advances of monsters, while you use your own skills to kill them, before they reach the central pump, which is. Venomgyre probably is the best clear speed starter after vengant cascade nerf. Vengeant Cascade is all the rage at the moment and I've been making use of it with my new Vengeant Cascade Ele Hit Deadeye build. If you've been playing my Vengeant Cascade Ele Hit Deadeye build, you might be wondering how to upgrade it and take it to the next level. Result. This notable really only helps with. Payment: Visa, PayPal, Skrill, Cryptocurrencies. 5% x 10 damage = 425% damage. Anointment Most won't get nerfed unless its an expedition tier blanket nerf, Cascade is definitely going to get bonked as will blood notch - I don't think i've ever seen them leave full invul in the game longer than a league. When testing "Vengeant Cascade" with "Cobra Lash" I noticed a few things, first of all the projectile won't return until there are no remaining chains on a projectile. Only 1 projectile can hit the mob, but it hits 2 times as all of you already know. Open menu Open navigation Go to Reddit Home. Phys is a bit more damage, but not that much more and it requires higher investment. i played a strength stacker poison molten strike assassin a long time ago and it was really fun. many of the non-spark variants are kind of gimmicks. They don't. Might not be top tier, but it should still be like B+ tier. 22 that focuses on speed, explosion, and survivability. Kromheim • 2 mo. Anything that changes the angle on the arrow on single target is bad.